13 svar
156 visningar
Nox_M är nöjd med hjälpen
Nox_M 79
Postad: 16 apr 2022 17:04 Redigerad: 17 apr 2022 14:17

Linjär Algebra

For part (a) I found that

λ = 2

λ  = √(a + 1,25) + 2,5 and 

λ  = -√(a + 1,25) + 2,5

For part (b) do I need to substitute each λ in null(A-λI) and find the eigenvectors? If I do this, row reducing will be very complicated.

Is there a simpler way of looking at this question?

Egocarpo 717
Postad: 16 apr 2022 17:12 Redigerad: 16 apr 2022 17:32

The question doesn't ask you to find the eigenvectors. It just asks for what values of a is there an orthogonal basis in R3R^3 made up of the eigenvectors of A.

I believe there is a theorem that states if you have unique eigenvalues then you have unique eigenvectors. With this I would choose all a that gives three unique eigenvalues. 

But there might be a weaker demand that you can use! My theorem is maybe to demanding so you miss some valid value of a.

Like when a =-1.25 then two lamba values are the same, maybe check this special case and see if you get three unique eigenvectors anyway. λ1=2, λ2,3=2.5\lambda_1 =2,  \lambda_{2,3}=2.5 if you can find three unique eigenvectors to this (A-λiI)·xi=0 ( \textbf{A}-\lambda_i \textbf{I} ) \cdot \textbf{x}_i=\textbf{0} then combined with my above claimed theorem for a >=-1.25 will give three unqiue eigenvectors which is an orthogonal basis for R3R^3. Then some arguement about the complex eigenvalues are needed (a<-1.25).

Nox_M 79
Postad: 16 apr 2022 17:30

So, if a matrix has 3 unique eigenvectors, these vectors automatically form an orthogonal basis for R3? 

Nox_M 79
Postad: 16 apr 2022 17:33

I checked  λ2,3=2.5 and it only gives me 1 vector. So a=-1.25 only gives me 2 unique vectors.

Egocarpo 717
Postad: 16 apr 2022 17:33
Nox_M skrev:

So, if a matrix has 3 unique eigenvectors, these vectors automatically form an orthogonal basis for R3? 

I believe three unqie real eigenvalues guarantees three unique real eigenvectors.

Egocarpo 717
Postad: 16 apr 2022 17:34
Nox_M skrev:

I checked  λ2,3=2.5 and it only gives me 1 vector. So a=-1.25 only gives me 2 unique vectors.

Good then a=-1.25 is excluded atleast!

Nox_M 79
Postad: 16 apr 2022 17:35

I understand that three unique real eigenvalues guarantee three unique real eigenvectors. But what guarantees that the 3 eigenvectors are orthogonal?

Egocarpo 717
Postad: 16 apr 2022 17:45
Nox_M skrev:

I understand that three unique real eigenvalues guarantee three unique real eigenvectors. But what guarantees that the 3 eigenvectors are orthogonal?

I did look around a bit and I can only find proof that it is the case if the matrix is symmetric. So I can only guarantee you when a=1 with the theorem I thought about. Then you will have 3 unique orthogonal eigenvectors. :D 

Nox_M 79
Postad: 16 apr 2022 17:50

That makes sense. Can you link the theorem?

Egocarpo 717
Postad: 16 apr 2022 17:51
Nox_M skrev:

That makes sense. Can you link the theorem?

The brackets are just scalar products here. 

Nox_M 79
Postad: 16 apr 2022 17:53

Thank you! : )

Egocarpo 717
Postad: 16 apr 2022 17:56
Nox_M skrev:

Thank you! : )

Best of luck I will check in later and see if there are any advancements. There are infinite cases still to be investigated. :,( To get a feel for it I would try a few cases with 3 real eigenvalues and see if I get orthogonal eigenvectors or not. To know which direction you wanna try and prove ;)

Nox_M 79
Postad: 16 apr 2022 18:04

That sounds great. I researched a little and found that a matrix is orthogonal only if the matrix is symmetric. So maybe that's the only case but I am not 100% sure


Tillägg: 16 apr 2022 22:08

I meant to say 'the eigenvectors are orthogonal only if the original matrix is symmetric.'

Smutstvätt 23894 – Moderator
Postad: 17 apr 2022 14:17

Only one thread per question is allowed. This thread will be locked. Please continue in your first thread, if you still need help. /moderator

Tråden är låst för fler inlägg

Close